The Law  in These PartsA remarkable film about the “legal” system in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Israeli Occupied Territories. A devastating look at how law and especially the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Israeli Supreme Court has  been windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount employed for 40 years to legitimize the illegitimate, the cruel and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the immoral.  Amazingly the judges themesleves are the confessors–although often they are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount unaware. For many years the Israeli Supreme Court (and its former Chief Justice Barak) have gotten more than a pass–it (and he) have been lauded as a beacons of justice.  That may be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount true for Israeli Jews, but its that very reputation that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount has allowed the court to make it appear that Palestinans arrested, administratively detained and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount tortured have had a day their day in court. Its the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Supreme Court that has approved the stealing of Palestinian land–giving “legitimacy” to theft.  When you get a chance–see this film- you will see the Supreme Court for what it is—worse than a rubber stamp–but a key part of the machinery of repression.

Whatever you think of Paul Simon’s music and especially Graceland (which I like a lot) a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount new movie at Sundance about the recording of that album could undercut the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount BDS campaign against Israel, and especially the cultural boycott. The film Under African Skies follows Paul Simon as he returns to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount South Africa 25 years after the release of his hugely popular album Graceland. As many of you windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount may not recall, Simon travelled to South Africa in the mid 80’s to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount record portions of this album at the height of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount economic and cultural embargo (boycott) of South Africa–an embargo imposed by the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount United Nations and supported by the African National Congress. He came under plenty of fire for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount doing so.

The movie, while it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount claims to deal with both sides of the question of whether Simon should have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount violated the embargo, amounts to a justification for Simon breaking the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount embargo. It could be said that the primary purpose of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount film (which Simon’s brother Eddie helped produce) was to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount validate his having done so and the right of other cultural figures to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount do likewise. In this respect the film has a dangerous potential: convincing wide audiences that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount cultural boycotts such as that against Israel should not be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount adhered to.In the film Simon does engage directly with those who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount disagreed with his breaking the embargo, but he comes off as self-involved, not particularly astute, and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount never gets the importance of the embargo as a means of ending apartheid. His claim is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount that he as an artist should be beyond politics and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount those politicians should not tell him or any artist what windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount they can do. He looks at his violation of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount embargo entirely as a question of artistic freedom and has windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount no understanding of its importance. For him, it’s about him. In fact, the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount original trip to South Africa was made for selfish reasons: his career was in a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount lull and he wanted to make a new album.

A telling moment in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount film is where Simon describes a meeting he had with the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount African National Congress at which he was told he should not have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount broken the embargo. (As I recall he had already gone and returned.) Simon reacts by saying that if that’s the kind of government they will be–telling artists what to do—he wants nothing to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount do with it. He entirely misses the point. The embargo was a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount political necessity to bring apartheid to an end; it was not about censorship. Here we have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Simon claiming that “artistic freedom” was more important than windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount an embargo imposed by the UN and the ANC as a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount means of ending apartheid. Mandela himself spoke of the importance of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount boycott in ending apartheid and commentators have pointed to the isolation of South Africans as key. The fact that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Simon was invited back to South Africa by Mandela does not wash away Simon’s actions, especially as he never wavers from windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount his view, justified by this film, that it was right for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount him to have violated the boycott

.The film also tries to rationalize Simon’s breaking the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount embargo by interviewing and filming the Black musicians with whom he worked. They seem to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have real affection for him, and Graceland helped launch some of their careers outside of South Africa. The film describes how important it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount was to bring the voices of Black musicians to the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount wider world– which arguably helped undercut apartheid. But, of course, that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount is not the point. Violation of the embargo by someone as famous as Simon undercut a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount key means of bringing down apartheid—isolating South Africa– and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount potentially encouraged other artists to do likewise. Moreover, measuring in retrospect whether Graceland helped or windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount hurt apartheid is an after the fact justification.I still like Graceland. I still listen to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Graceland. It is joyful and life affirming. But I will always be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount haunted by its history.

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Michael Ratner: January 11th, here we are. We’ve completed ten years after 9-11, going into the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount eleventh year. The tenth anniversary of Guantanamo opening. On the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount actual annivesary, January 11th, I will be in London commemorating the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount opening of Guantanamo with other lawyers but particularly with men who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have been freed from Guantanamo, a group called Caged Prisoners.Commemorating the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount 11th year of the practices that underlie imprisonment at Guantanamo: the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount capture of detainees anywhere in the world or their kidnapping; their imprisonment indefinitely or windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount forever under a preventive detention scheme; and their trials, if at all, by rump trials or windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount military commissions. Here we are, the Guantanamo Syndrome — that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount series of illnesses, sickness and outrage that represent both Republican and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Democratic administrations are still with us.I’m commemorating it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount with a group set up after Guantanamo, set up by some of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount very people who were formerly impisoned in Guantanamo, a group called Caged Prisoners. And I’m in London going through three days of commemoration of not just those who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount remain in Guantanamo, but of those who remain in secret prisons all over the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount world, particularly Bagram.I’m with a number of the people who have been freed — freed from Guantanamo,  for example, Moazzam Begg.   I’m with him today in London  and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount his story actually tells us a lot about what happened at Guantanamo. I met Moazzam Begg in in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount United Kingdom. He’d been windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount freed because of the huge amount of efforts by the British citizens — led by the Redgraves [the late Corin Redgrave and his sister Vanessa Redgrave of the British acting family dynasty] in particular and other efforts  to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount get the British citizens out of there.I met a group of detainees known as the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Tipton 3 in 2004. When  I walked into the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount room, I remember it like it was yesterday, here were these young men — I mean they were young like my own children in a way — and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the idea that these three men were ever kept in Guantanamo as the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount ‘worst of the worst’ or ‘terrorists’ just struck me as completely impossible. They could joke with me, they could tell the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount stories of what happened, they could talk about Guantanamo, they could talk about their own lives and, of course, they were kept in Guantanamo after being picked up in Pakistan and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount forced to give ‘confessions’ when windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount they were at Guantanamo.They figured when they were at Guantanamo that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount after they were being tortured in various ways that they were better off just saying, ‘Yeah, we knew Osama bin Laden, etc.’ And they thought it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount would go better for them but of course it went worse. And even though they had windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount alibis of where they were at the time and why they were in Afghanistan — and good ones, correct ones — the government forced these ‘confessions’ out of them under torture and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount kept them there year after year. When I met them, they talked about the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount torture.And when I talk to you, our listeners, about it, you windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have to understand that when I met them, no one knew publicly what windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount was going on in Guantanamo, there’d been windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount no access to Guantanamo. But there was the testimony of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Tipton Three. And everybody said, ‘Oh, they’re lying, they’re not telling the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount truth.In the room with me that day, they went over what’s called a “Rumsfeld Technique.” Those are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount what we now know are everything from hooding, stripping, dogs, sexual assault — all these kind of terrible things that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Rumsfeld Techniques did to people at Guantanamo as a means of coercing what windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount turned out to be false confessions out of people. And I sat there and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount I believed them. But I had trouble believing it because, of course, I’d always looked at Guantanamo as a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount horrible place because it was incommunicado detention — we couldn’t get them into court to test their detentions, we couldn’t get them lawyers, we couldn’t visit — and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount I looked at that as the worst aspect. And while I suspected that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount there might be interrogation issues, I didn’t realize that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount there would be abuse amounting or equivalent to torture.Was I naive in that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount respect? Possibly so. But of course within a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount couple of months after my interview with the Guantanamo Three or windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the Tipton Three, the Abu Ghraib photos came out on April 24th of 2004 and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount then, of course, it was public for everybody. The Rumfseld Techniques came out and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount then the Tipton Three’s testimony — that people had said, ‘Oh, we don’t believe it’ — was proven to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount be utterly, utterly accurate to the actual use of the Rumsfeld Techniques, the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount dozen techniques.And so then Guantanamo became synonymous not just with incommunicado detention but with torture as well.Today, of course, Guantanamo is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount still there. And as we talk about Guantanamo, I want to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount give people the numbers. Guantanamo is still there. 171 men remain in Guantanamo. 46 have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount been approved — whatever that means — for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount indefinite detention and will be there forever as far as I know. 36 men have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount been referred for prosecution.(4 of those have been convicted)  What kind of prosecution? Most likely military commissions which are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount just rump courts which are just rump trials for nothing.The remainder? Not clear. But most of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount remainder have been approved for release.So that means the remainder shouldn’t be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount there at all. People like the Uighurs from western China who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount were picked up wrongly — admittedly wrongly — and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have now been there for ten years and will be going on I don’t know how many years. So that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount total is about 89 people, most of whom have been approved for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount transfer. So of those 89  none of them should be there. So there’s our numbers again. 46 indefinitely detained forever, 36 supposedly subject to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount prosecution and 89 who shouldn’t be there at all — or windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount most of whom should not be there at all, some of whom they may not have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount decided yet. That’s Guantanamo today.Michael RatnerCenter for Constitutional RightsSent from my iPad

Although I am sitting here in Suriname on this New Year’s day, it’s hard not to think of Obama’s gift to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount us for the New Year: the signing of the NDAA and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount it’s nasty confirmation of detention and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount kangaroo trials that Bush and now Obama have been employing for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount 10 years.  He signed on a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount no press day, just like Bush used to do; and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount just like Bush issued a meaningless and unconstitutional signing statement.   On January 11 we enter the 11th year of Gitmo–just another broken promise for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Obama, but a Hell Hole for prisoners there and around the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount world.Last night Paramaibo had the most spectacular fireworks I have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount ever seen.  Over 75 sites shot rockets in the air for two hours–we were entirely surrounded by a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount gorgeous intense display that went on way past midnight.   For now here is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount a list of many of the animals seen in the rainforest:Jaguar fresh paw printToucansBlue Morpho butterfliesMacawsGreat blue heronsBush Police birdBoa consrtictorWhiptail snakeHowler monkeyCormorantPacaCaiman alligatorToadsIridescent lizardsIguanaHawksTermitesAnd more

1.By claiming roughly similar detention and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount trial by commission powers as Bush employed-powers which I find illegal and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount immoral– Obama, as a Democrat,  has made them part of  of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount fabric of our laws. No longer are they the aberration of a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount right wing Republican in a time to “terror emergency.”   And now having legislation confirm those powers makes matters worse.

2. That confirmation as some on the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount list serve said, makes detention of US citizens easier.

3. But I  am also concerned by the focus on US citizens.  Why is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount it ok to do do non-citizens what we say should not be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount done to US citizens? Sure, the constitution. But as a matter of human rights  should not all of us have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount similar fundamental rights regarding detention and trial.  Is not all the debate about US citizens a form of exceptionalism  that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount reinforces some of the worst aspects of what we are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount doing to others? By focussing on US ctizens we allow people in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount US to forgot about human beings jailed at gitmo, bagram etc.

From my daughter: I’ve been windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount reading about the new bill that was passed by the senate, what windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount does it mean exactly? How is it different than what we have now? What does it mean for Guantanamo, Anything? My Answer:

1. Both Bush and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Obama have claimed the right to kill and capture alleged terrorists anywhere in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount world or hold them in military detention indefinitely—ie Guantanamo.
In their view the world is a battlefield—not just Afghanistan and Iraq.
Their claim is that alleged terrorists –at least those related to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount al Qaeda, Taliban and associated forces (whatever that means) are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount at war with the United States and that the US can windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount make war on them which includes capturing them and holding them forever without trial—no windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount matter where they are: Yemen, Somalia, United Kingdom, South America or windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount anywhere.
The determination of whom to capture and/or kill is made by the President without any court.
Bush and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Obama have always claimed that US citizens can be so treated as well—so that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount is why under Obama we saw the killing of an American citizen by a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount drone in Yemen—al-alwaki.
Both Presidents have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount also acted as if they can kill and capture alleged terrorists that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have no relationship to 9/11—the new law confirms this practice.

2. CCR and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount I have always asserted that the attack on the World Trade Center was a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount criminal act and that the people allegedly involved in that act or windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount other similar acts against the US at other places in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount world should be treated as alleged criminals, arrested, and tried in regular courts. And we think we are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount right on the law—especially international law.

Unfortunately, CCR’s position is not the position of Obama or the courts in the US—and we have mostly lost on this issue—that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount is one reason Guantanamo and the polices that underlie it are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount still there and will be for a long time.

3. What the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount legislation does is make what have been the practices of Bush and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Obama into law—prior to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount this legislation, it was more or less what the presidents did—but without congress passing a law.
So in that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount sense the legislation does not make worse many of the bad practices of Bush and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Obama—but it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount does make it harder to change back because now congress is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount behind it. Of course it’s bad for that reason but the real blame here is on Bush and Obama.

4. Many of those writing about the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount legislation are upset that it may require the President to put US citizens captured in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount US into military custody—the legislation does not do that—but it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount does not prohibit the president from doing so. In fact Bush did that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount in a case called Padilla. —he is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount an American citizen who got off a plane in Chicago and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount was allegedly going to commit an act of terrorism. He was put into military custody and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount only given a trial to avoid a Supreme Court ruling on whether holding him in military custody without trial was constitutional.

Conclusion: Obama already broke his promise on closing Guantanamo; he has windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount gone along with most of the Bush policies regarding Guantanamo and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the “war on terror:” indefinite detention, military trials etc. This law gives a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount congressional imprimatur to what he has been doing—and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount requires him to jump through some more hoops to get people out of Guantanamo. However Obama had windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount already made it almost impossible to close Guantanamo and impossible to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount end the practices which underlie it—as he supports those policies: this law makes it a bit harder.

I took this windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount photo on the Nov 15 march when we went back to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Liberty Park in NY to try and reoccupy!  Who says the Feds are not involved in smashing the OWS?

Activist and senior at Bard College, Ana Ratner joins the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount discussion on Occupy Colleges student movement in the Hudson Valley. Ana is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Michael Ratner’s daughter is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount also involved with bringing awareness to mistreatment of workers at the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount college, specifically employment contractors.

• I think people on their own (at Bard College) had windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount been concerned about the Occupy movement. It was around that time when windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount people found each other and wanted to do something, weekly teach ins, general assemblies.
• At Bard we have a sub-contractor called Aramark that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount is control of the all the buildings and grounds and housekeepers and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount workers on campus. They treat their workers very badly.
• Through the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Occupy movement more kids on campus are becoming concerned about worker’s rights and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount financial transparency and where our money is going, how it effects and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount who it effects.
• Occupy Poughkeepsie, a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount local movement, trying to connect the regions in the Hudson Valley. OccupyHudsonValley. They have tents and a kitchen.
• At Bard College: until the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Occupy movement, no one really came together. I’m learning about the whole community at Bard.
• For the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount most part the workers are mostly invisible, they clean your dorm and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount campus. There’s a group called the Student Labor Dialogue.
• Aramark was kicked off at Bard College, now they want to hire another contractor.

Guest – Ana Ratner, activist and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount senior at Bard College. Ana has been active with the Occupy Colleges student movement and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Occupy Wall Street.

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The Facebook Thread 

A protestor wakes up from windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount his former home in Zucatti Park. Walks over to (SBUX) and grabs his morning coffee. Then heads over to (WFM) to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount grab some organic fruit and yogurt. After he heads back to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Wall Street and begins vigorously typing on his (APPL) device through the (ATT) network about how capitalism has provided nothing but greed….Just saying..

R    They tried to block Diana from getting to work…Luckily she is a ninja, and cannot be stopped.

T  Same with M. I told her to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount use pepper spray but she has this weird trait that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the y chromosome eliminates called compassion.

R    hahaha.

Ana Ratner it’s better than windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount consuming without thinking and using without caring. At least they do the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount best they can.

TJ  I swear every single one of the occupy SF protesters is homeless

T   I agree. Ana. Those OWS are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount wasting resources at an excessive level. Using my gas to drive their Prius. Drinking my water and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount breathing my air.

R  yeah. its insane they have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount ruined any chance they had of correcting some of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount minor injustices by attacking the wrong people, the wrong places, and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount generally not having a clear message, with incredibly unfeasible and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount un-american ideas. I say we ship them off to some other fuckin’ country…problem solved..

T Send em to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount china. Thy will have a blast with communist capitalism if they think things are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount bad in the US. People like them fail to realize what windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount a great country we live in. Pathetic traitors.

R fuck man, china is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount better. As your mom said. Capitalism with complete government control…

R Yeah they are just lazy fucks.

A Too True

Ana Ratner MINOR INJUSTICES are you insane?

Ana Ratner We are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount currently fighting three wars in countries we have no need to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount be in - killing civilians daily and tearing apart families. There is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount no help given to people that have been consistently fucked over for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount decades (Native Americans, Blacks, Latinos..). We own prisons over seas where human rights don’t apply to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the prisoners, where they are tortured until they admit to committing crimes they did not. We have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount separated over 1 million families because the people who we need in order for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount our country to run our country are “illegal”. We are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount building a pipeline from canada to texas that will basically ruin any hope for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount controlling climate change. There are no regulation on what goes into the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount food that you eat or slave labour employed to make it. Innocent people are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount put to death by our own government without any evidence except evidence proving their innocence. And do you windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount know who pays for that? ME and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount YOU and everyone else in this country. Imagine if our tax money went to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount paying our workers more, putting kids through school, paying for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount people who can’t afford healthcare. But wait, you are right! It is so “Un-American” to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have equality, free-speech, the right to live, eat, go to a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount decent hospital, and have any say in what decisions are being made by the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount government you elected.

R If you windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount go to Zuccati park you will see its a bunch of drug addicts, and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount people who are getting violent.

R They have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount no idea what they want its just a bunch of left wing nuts pissed that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the kid in class has a cooler bike.

R we will CRUSH our economy if we tax the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount corporations more. They already pay some of the higher taxes in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount world, and the rich…ohh yeah they pay for more than 40% of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount taxes. There is so much to this issue, and lord knows I think its fucked up when windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount a CEO fires people to get out of a hole and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount then takes a bonus. But we need to exercise good business practices, and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount get rid of some of the people who got us in that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount hole, other than that these people are going against the ideals our country was founded on.

R My main point is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount these people need to come together and write plans of action, not be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount violent and rude to people like me and my girlfriend who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount are just trying to make an honest buck through good old fashion hard work. I do this windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount because I know that in this country I make myself whoever I want to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount be. I heard one girl on a youtube video talking about going back to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount agriculturalism or some bullshit she made up where we went to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount hunter gatherer, fend for yourself. She feels that if everyone were equal its perfectly fine that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount masses of people die adapting to this new proposal, yes not ok for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount her to not have a new car.

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T Find me 2 people who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have a point in OWS. They are all hypocritical little bitches. yes this windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount isn’t a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount perfect world. Maybe that pipeline is not the best thing for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount nature. But it will create hundreds if not thousands of jobs and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount decrease our dependence on the countries we are currently at war. This movement is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount not about communication. To communicate you must have a message and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount no one in Zuccatti park seems to have their story strait. If they want to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount make a difference, how about coming up with an idea. The people they are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount fighting got to where they are by having ideas, being innovative and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount creating all of the products that have been used to spread the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount messages of these protestors. If they want to be included, they need to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount make a difference not just complain. Mediocrity and entitlement do not further our cause as a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount civilization. I think the only message that seems to be clear is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount these people want some of the money the 1% are hoarding. Ok, understandable, who doesn’t? But they didn’t fall into it, they worked for windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount it. Some of the most successful people in our history came from windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount nothing. The only reason I make fun of these protestors aside from windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount they approach is their counterintuitive message. Lets not work, sit in a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount park and yell at our bosses so we can get a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount better job. We live in the only country that allows people that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount crazy to speak their mind. Their therapy session is over. They have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount been the most fantastic neusance in the last few months. Now stop waisting everyones time, get back to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount work and keep this country driving forward. You don’t like our ideals or how we get shit done, move to Canada.

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Boston Richard Falk (a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount friend whom I admire and respect for his long advocacy of peace and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount justice) has said this is “the first truly just war since World War II.” I have puzzled over this. How can a war be “truly just” that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount involves the daily killing of civilians; that is terrorizing the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount people of Afghanistan, causing hundreds of thousands to leave their homes to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount escape the bombs; that has little chance of finding those who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount planned the September 11 attacks (and even if found, no chance that this would stop terrorism); and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount that can only multiply the ranks of people who are angry at this windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount country, from whose ranks terrorists are born? The stories of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount effects of our bombing are beginning to come through, in bits and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount pieces: the wounded children arriving across the border, one barely two months old, swathed in bloody bandages; the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Red Cross warehouses bombed, the use of deadly cluster bombs, a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount small mountain village bombed and entire families wiped out. That is only a few weeks into the bombing, The “war against terrorism” has windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount become a war against innocent men, women and children, who are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount in no way responsible for the terrorist attack on New York. I believe the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount supporters of the war have confused a just cause with a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount just war. A cause may be just–like ending terrorism. But it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount does not follow that going to war on behalf of that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount cause, with the inevitable mayhem that follows, is just. Falk talks of “limited military action.” But the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount momentum of war rides roughshod over limits. Atrocities are explained by the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount deceptive language of “accident,” “military targets,” “collateral damage.” Killing innocent people in war is not an “accident.” It is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount an inevitability. The moral equation in Afghanistan is clear. Civilian casualties are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount certain. The outcome is uncertain. Use the money allotted our huge military machine to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount combat starvation and disease around the world. One-third of our military budget would provide water and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount sanitation facilities for the billion people worldwide who have none. Let us be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount a more modest nation. The modest nations of the world don’t face the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount threat of terrorism. Let us pull back from being a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount military superpower and become a humanitarian superpower. We, and everyone else, will then windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount be more secure.HOWARD ZINN

New York City Here is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount bad news indeed: Our friend Richard Falk, speaker of truth to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount power, guru to activists, antiestablishmentarian par excellence, has cloned himself. We now have windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the old Falk, on October 8 calling for “A Just Response” in his prophetic voice and on October 29 the new Falk “Defining a Just War” in tones of neorealism. Those who took to heart the old Falk’s admonition that this is “above all, a war without military solutions” are now chastised by the new Falk for being “irrelevant to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount meeting the central challenge of restoring some sense of security among our citizenry.” The old Falk told us that “reliance on the rule of law,” possibly through a due process trial under UN authority, “would be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount a major step in seeking to make the struggle against terrorism enjoy the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount genuine support of the entire organized international community.” The new Falk says this windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount is pie in the sky, since the United States would never agree to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount such a trial, which in any case would only offer Osama bin Laden an windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount opportunity to have himself declared a bona fide legal martyr. The old Falk declares “the only way to win this ‘war’ (if war it is)…is with a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount credible commitment to the global promotion of social justice.” Correction from the new Falk: “Global suffering and injustice…cannot be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount addressed so long as this movement of global terrorism is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount at large.” True enough, both the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount old and the new Falk call for limited ends and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount means. But, given the precedents of US behavior in Central America, Serbia and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Iraq, how realistic is that demand? We are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount bombing a country in which there was nothing left to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount bomb to begin with. In dealing with this windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount greatest of contemporary crimes against humanity, a judicious use of force cannot be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount ruled out altogether. But perhaps the real realist is Donald Rumsfeld, who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount warns that bin Laden may never be found and that the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Taliban are not about to roll over and play dead. We can windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount all hope that this prediction will turn out to be wrong. In the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount meantime what is needed is better security, better intelligence, better communication and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount that commitment to global justice, both criminal and social. Easier said than windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount done, but absolutely necessary. Will the old Falk please stand up? We need you, Richard! PETER WEISS
Lawyers Committee on Nuclear Policy

New York City; Pittsburgh Richard Falk’s endorsement of a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount limited war is fraught with immeasurable harm. Thousands of refugees are windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount fleeing daily; the United Nations is predicting the death of 100,000 children; and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount hate for Americans is pouring into the streets of Pakistan, Indonesia and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount other Muslim countries. We are creating the terrorists that will visit terror upon our children. Pakistan, with its nuclear arsenal, may be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount destabilized. Innocents have been killed, and we may face a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount fractionalized and warfaring post-Taliban Afghanistan. There was another way. Treat the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount attacks on September 11 as a crime against humanity (mass or systematic killing of civilians), establish a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount UN tribunal, extradite or, if that fails, capture the suspects with a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount UN force and try them. The US experience with Libya demonstrates both the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount perils of a military response and the possibilities for international justice. US officials believed that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the 1986 bombing of Libya led to the downing of Pan Am 103 and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount that more bombing would lead to a spiraling cycle of violence. The United States turned to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the UN, which applied international pressure; eventually the Libyans extradited the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount suspects for trial. The objections Falk makes to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount such a tribunal revolve primarily around his belief that Washington would not accept such a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount court, in part because the court might not be authorized to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount give the death penalty. But since when should respected international legal experts like Falk, who windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount generally favor peaceful resolutions of conflicts, shy away from arguing what windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount is right simply because they believe the United States will not listen? Falk says that it is “unreasonable to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount expect the US government to rely on the UN to fulfill its defensive needs.” But Falk did not think that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount it was unreasonable for the Kuwaitis to rely on the UN to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount counteract Iraqi aggression in 1990. Is Falk bowing to US exceptionalism–the UN is good for everybody else, but not for the only superpower? It is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount remarkable that Falk, while recognizing that the global role of the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount United States has given rise to widespread resentment that fuels the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount terrorist impulse, claims that this role “cannot be windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount addressed so long as this movement of global terrorism is windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount at large.” But it windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount is now that we must examine this resentment: our tilt in the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the use of the Persian Gulf as a US base and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount support for corrupt, authoritarian regimes. We must do so not to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount “give in to terrorists” but to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount promote a more just and peaceful world and to enhance our long-term security. To do so only when windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount the global terrorist movement is no longer “at large” insures that such an examination will never occur. Developing a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount proper response to terrorism is incredibly difficult, and no short-term solution seems particularly attractive. Only by taking the windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount road toward creating a more equal, democratic and just world can windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount we create conditions of security from terrorism for our children. Bombing Afghanistan–whatever the justness of the cause–seems the wrong way to start down that path.MICHAEL RATNER, JULES LOBEL
Center for Constitutional Rights

FALK REPLIESPrinceton, N.J. With each passing day, my assessment shifts to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount reach the conclusion that the United States is waging an unjust war in Afghanistan, and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount it is doing so in a manner that is likely to windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount have severe blowback consequences. I was misled by the language of George W. Bush, Colin Powell and windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount others, which seemed at the time to exhibit an understanding that windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount this was a drastically different kind of war that required a windows 7 install software 32 bit cheap discount core reliance on nonmilitary approaches. 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